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1908 LSU Tigers football team

American college football season

1908 LSU Tigers football team

American college football season

FieldValue
year1908
teamLSU Tigers
sportfootball
imageLSUfootball1908.JPG
image_size285
conferenceSouthern Intercollegiate Athletic Association
short_confSIAA
record10–0
conf_record2–0
head_coachEdgar Wingard
hc_year2nd
captainMarshall H. "Cap" Gandy
stadiumState Field
championCo-national champion (NCF)
SIAA champion

SIAA champion The 1908 LSU Tigers football team represented the LSU Tigers of Louisiana State University during the 1908 college football season. The Tigers were coached by Edgar Wingard and posted a perfect 10–0 record, outscoring opponents 442 to 11. The team played its home games at State Field and competed as members of the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association (SIAA).

Triple threat quarterback Doc Fenton led the nation in points scored. The Tigers were retro-picked as co-national champion by the National Championship Foundation, and the NCAA recognizes LSU as national champion for that season along with Penn. However, LSU does not officially recognize this season as a national championship season.

The season was clouded by accusations of professionalism by Grantland Rice and rival school Tulane. The SIAA conducted an investigation that cleared LSU of any wrongdoing, but since many publications voted for the SIAA champion prior to the conclusion of the investigation, they did not recognize LSU's title.

Schedule

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Before the season

In 1908, football used a one-platoon system, with players featuring on offense, defense, and special teams. Also, the field was 110 yards in length, touchdowns were worth 5 points, and field goals earned 4 points. The team that scored a touchdown had the option to kickoff or receive. The ball was also much fatter.

The Tigers lost few players from the 1907 team and prospects were bright. End Rowson "Little" Stovall and center Robert L. "Big" Stovall were brothers.

Lally and Fenton had both previously played for Mansfield Normal School, and Lally was one of the best blockers for Fenton. One of Fenton's favorite plays was the "tackle over tackle" play. In this play, Fenton faked a handoff to a back, then gave the ball to a tackle and led the blocking behind the other tackle. "Doc was the hub," recalled captain and tackle Marshall 'Cap' Gandy, "and we were the spokes." Fenton earned the reputation of doing everything well with a football.

Game summaries

LSU opened the season with two warm-up games, one against the Young Men's Gymnastic Club and the other Jackson Barracks-New Orleans.

Y. M. G. C.

Baton Rouge, LA LSU beat Tad Gormley's Young Men's Gymnastic Club, winning 41–0.

The starting lineup was: Seip (left end), Gandy (left tackle), Pollock (left guard), R. L. Stovall (center), Hillman (right guard), Noblett (right tackle), Fenton (right end), Gill (quarterback), Stovall (left halfback), C. Smith (right halfback), and Lally (fullback).

Jackson Barracks-New Orleans

Baton Rouge, LA LSU swamped the Jackson Barracks-New Orleans 81–5. Fenton was switched to quarterback, swapping places at end with Reuben Gill. One account reads: "In Lally and Fenton the University has a pair that can hardly be equaled. In the game Fenton showed that he has lost none of his ability to dodge, his swiftness as a runner, his power as a punter and kicker, and his cool hard work. ... The two work splendidly together." The soldiers at Jackson Barracks made the only touchdown scored all season on the Tigers, when their halfback Culligan picked up a fumble and ran it back 105 yards. Captain Gandy once had a 40-yard touchdown, and Lally had one score of 60 yards.

Texas A&M

New Orleans, LA The Tigers beat the Texas A&M Aggies 26–0 at Pelican Park in New Orleans in the rain. The Aggies once ran the wrong way.

Rooters at the Texas A&M game

The first scoring drive was highlighted by a 14-yard pass from Fenton to Little Stovall, and ended with a Stovall touchdown run around left end. On LSU's second scoring drive, Lally had a 25-yard run, and Fenton eventually went around left end for the score. Before the half ended, Fenton kicked a 25-yard field goal from placement.

LSU's next touchdown came on a fumble recovery by Willie Hillman. The final touchdown was the most exciting, as Mike Lally had a 40-yard touchdown run around right end.

The starting lineup was: Gill (left end), Gandy (left tackle), Pollock (left guard), Hillman (center), Thomas (right guard), Noblett (right tackle), Stovall (right end), Fenton (quarterback), C. Smith (left halfback), Lally (right halfback), and B. Smith (fullback).

Southwestern Presbyterian

Baton Rouge, LA Southwestern Presbyterian (today known as Rhodes College) fell to LSU 55–0. SWPU did not make ten yards all day.

The starting lineup was: Stovall (left end), Gandy (left tackle), Pollock (left guard), Hillman (center), Thomas (right guard), Noblett (right tackle), Gill (right end), Fenton (quarterback), C. Smith (left halfback), Lally (right halfback), and B. Smith (fullback).

Auburn

Auburn, Alabama

Undefeated LSU met undefeated Auburn for the top spot in the SIAA at the Auburn athletic field. LSU won 10–2, the only game it did not win by more than 20 points.

Seip

The first touchdown came on a run from John Seip. LSU made the second score using conventional football.

"We won every game that fall except LSU," Auburn star Walker Reynolds told Clyde Bolton in 1973. "But LSU had a pro team."

The starting lineup was: Stovall (left end), Gandy (left tackle), Hillman (left guard), R. L. Stovall (center), Thomas (right guard), Noblett (right tackle), Seip (right end), Fenton (quarterback), Tally (left halfback), C. Smith (right halfback), and B. Smith (fullback).

Mississippi A&M

Baton Rouge, LA LSU won easily over the Mississippi Aggies 50–0, using substitutes by the end of the game.

The first score occurred after five and-a-half minutes had passed, Clarence Smith going through right tackle.

In the second half, Fenton went 30 yards for another touchdown on a return. Gill went around left end for another touchdown. Fenton went 40 yards for the next touchdown. The last touchdown came from Clarence Smith.

Mike Lally

The starting lineup was: Seip (left end), Gandy (left tackle), Hillman (left guard), R. L. Stovall (center), Pollock (right guard), Noblett (right tackle), Stovall (right end), Fenton (quarterback), C. Smith (left halfback), Lally (right halfback), and B. Smith (fullback).

Baylor

Baton Rouge, LA The Tigers romped 89–0 over Baylor, the second highest score in school history. The highlight of the contest was Mike Lally's 105-yard return for a touchdown. Pat Ryan also had a 75-yard touchdown run.

After the game, Baylor's coach Enoch J. Mills said: "You have, without any doubt, the strongest team in the South by far. The playing of your team here was something wonderful. We were simply badly beaten. You could run up as large a score on Tulane as you did against us without any trouble."

The starting lineup was: Stovall (left end), Gandy (left tackle), Pollock (left guard), R. L. Stovall (center), Hillman (right guard), Neblett (right tackle), Seip (right end), Fenton (quarterback), I. Smith (left halfback), Lally (right halfback), and C. Smith (fullback).

Haskell

New Orleans, LA LSU defeated the Haskell Indians, 32–0, outweighing the Indians and needing little strategy.

Clarence Smith bucked the line for 15 yards and the first touchdown. Fenton later added a 30-yard field goal.

In the second half, Gandy made a touchdown on the "tackle over tackle" play; Bob Smith made another. Clarence Smith made his second touchdown of the day around right end. The final score was a 32-yard end run by Mike Lally.

The starting lineup was: Stovall (left end), Gandy (left tackle), Pollock (left guard), R. L. Stovall (center), Hillman (right guard), Neblett (right tackle), Seip (right end), Fenton (quarterback), C. Smith (left halfback), Lally (right halfback), and B. Smith (fullback).

Louisiana Industrial

The Tigers beat Louisiana Industrial of Ruston, 22–0. Fenton was the star of the game, with two interceptions for touchdowns.

The starting lineup was: Stovall (left end), Gandy (left tackle), Thomas (left guard), Hillman (center), Pollock (right guard), Noblett (right tackle), Seip (right end), Fenton (quarterback), C. Smith (left halfback), Lally (right halfback), and B. Smith (fullback).

Arkansas

Little Rock, Arkansas LSU defeated Arkansas 36–4, with Fenton's runs and kicks featuring throughout. The crowd was the largest ever to see a football game in Arkansas.

LSU made three touchdowns in the game's first four minutes. On the Tigers' first possession, Fenton went 22 yards around right end and Lally then went 40 yards for a touchdown. On the ensuing Arkansas possession, Fenton intercepted a pass and returned it 45 yards for the score. Big Stovall made the third touchdown on an onside kick from scrimmage. LSU also had touchdowns using a triple pass and a double pass.

Arkansas got its points after a 35-yard pass from a fake field goal led to a field goal from the 30-yard line. Fenton had the lone score of the second half, on a 55-yard run and fake pass.

The starting lineup was: Stovall (left end), Gandy (left tackle), Thomas (left guard), R. L. Stovall (center), Hillman (right guard), Noblett (right tackle), Seip (right end), Fenton (quarterback), C. Smith (left halfback), Lally (right halfback), and B. Smith (fullback).

After the season

Doc Fenton

Disputed title

The season was clouded by accusations of professionalism by Grantland Rice and rival school Tulane. Amidst fears of many players being ineligible under SIAA rules, most sportswriters instead gave the Southern title to Auburn, and left LSU players off their All-Southern team. A subsequent SIAA investigation cleared LSU of any wrongdoing, but since many publications voted for the SIAA champion prior to the conclusion of the investigation, they did not recognize LSU's title.

Awards and honors

Fans presented coach Wingard and referee James Halligan with gold-handled umbrellas.

Fenton's 125 points (132 by modern rules) led the nation in scoring.{{refn|group="n"|The six field goals were surpassed in 1965 by Doug Moreau.

Legacy

The 1908 team is said to be LSU's first great team,

Fenton and Seip were nominated, though not selected, for an Associated Press All-Time Southeast 1869–1919 era team. Fenton, Lally, Seip, and Noblett made the first-team of an all-time LSU team selected in 1935. According to Tony Barnhart, Fenton is considered the first great football player in LSU history. The National Football Foundation selected Fenton as the retroactive Heisman Trophy winner of 1908.

Personnel

Roster

RosterPlayerPositionHeightWeightHometownHigh School
Doc FentonQuarterback5'9"165Scranton, PennsylvaniaScranton
Willie HillmanGuard/Center-172Minden, LouisianaMinden
Mike LallyHalfback--Jessup, Pennsylvania-
John SeipEnd6'1"185Allentown, Pennsylvania-
Robert L. StovallCenter--Dodson, Louisiana-
Oren NoblettTackle-230Denham Springs, Louisiana-
Judge PollockGuard-173Bernice, Louisiana-
Marshall GandyTackle6'1"175Negreet, Louisiana-
Reuben GillEnd/quarterback--Ruston, Louisiana-
Rowson StovallHalfback--Dodson, Louisiana-
Clarence SmithHalfback-178Albion, Michigan-
Bob SmithFullback-171Albion, Michigan-
Pat RyanHalfback6'1"-New Orleans, Louisiana-
Jonnie AlbrightQuarterback--Memphis, Tennessee-
Claude HarveyHalfback--Bunkie, Louisiana-
O'BannonEnd----
Arthur ThomasGuard-176Baton Rouge, Louisiana-
SentelleGuard----

Roster from LSU: The Louisiana Tigers

Scoring leaders

The following is an incomplete list of statistics and scores, largely dependent on newspaper summaries.

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Staff

  • Coach: Edgar Wingard
  • Manager: R. L. Himes

Notes

References

Additional sources

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