Some Things Never Change

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Field	Value
name	Some Things Never Change
type	studio
artist	Supertramp
cover	Supertramp - Some Things Never Change.jpg
released	24 March 1997
recorded	1996
genre	Blues rock, progressive rock
length	65:36 (11-track version)
70:03 (12-track version)
label	EMI
Oxygen (US)
producer	Jack Douglas, Fred Mandel
prev_title	The Very Best of Supertramp 2
prev_year	1992
next_title	It Was the Best of Times
next_year	1999
misc	{{Singles
name	Some Things Never Change
type	studio
single1	You Win, I Lose
single1date	February 1997
single2	Listen to Me Please
single2date	April 1997
single3	Sooner or Later
single3date	1997 (NL)
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| name = Some Things Never Change | type = studio | artist = Supertramp | cover = Supertramp - Some Things Never Change.jpg | alt = | released = 24 March 1997 | recorded = 1996 | studio =

• Ocean Way, Hollywood
• The Backyard, Encino | genre = Blues rock, progressive rock | length = 65:36 (11-track version) 70:03 (12-track version) | label = EMI Oxygen (US) | producer = Jack Douglas, Fred Mandel | prev_title = The Very Best of Supertramp 2 | prev_year = 1992 | next_title = It Was the Best of Times | next_year = 1999 | misc = {{Singles | name = Some Things Never Change | type = studio | single1 = You Win, I Lose | single1date = February 1997 | single2 = Listen to Me Please | single2date = April 1997 | single3 = Sooner or Later | single3date = 1997 (NL)

Some Things Never Change is the tenth album by the British rock band Supertramp, released in March 1997.

Overview

Some Things Never Change represented a deliberate return to the band's earlier sound (before Free as a Bird), using more organic recording techniques than on their previous studio album. John Helliwell recounted that "we recorded the album in a way that Supertramp never had and that was by all going into the studio together and doing it as a much more live thing."

The album features the single "You Win, I Lose", which was a minor hit in Germany and also received considerable airplay in Canada. Two more singles were released commercially: "Listen To Me Please" and "Sooner or Later".

The song "Live to Love You" (which was also released as a promo single) features both the 'tackled' sound from the Coleco Electronic Quarterback handheld electronic game, as well as the Trouble "Pop-o-matic bubble" sounds from their 1979 hit "The Logical Song".

Cover art

Rick Davies explained the concept behind the album cover: "It's something to tie in with the title. In England people have tea at four o'clock and it doesn't matter where they are or what sort of social plane they're on, they will have that tea."

Reception

| rev1 = AllMusic | rev1Score = | rev2 = Encyclopedia of Popular Music | rev2Score = | rev3 = The Rolling Stone Album Guide | rev3Score = AllMusic commented that the album retains the same style and strong instrumental interplay from the band's glory years, but lacks the "ingratiatingly catchy melodies" of that era, making it of strong interest to the band's fans but much less to casual listeners.

Track listing

All songs written and sung by Rick Davies except where noted. | extra_column = Lead vocals | title1 = It's a Hard World | length1 = 9:46 | title2 = You Win, I Lose | length2 = 4:31 | title3 = Get Your Act Together | length3 = 4:49 | title4 = Live to Love You | length4 = 5:18 | title5 = Some Things Never Change | length5 = 6:26 | title6 = Listen to Me Please | extra6 = Davies and Hart | length6 = 4:46 | title7 = Sooner or Later | writer7 = Davies and Mark Hart | extra7 = Mark Hart | length7 = 6:50 | title8 = Help Me Down That Road | length8 = 4:36 | title9 = And the Light | length9 = 4:40 | title10 = Give Me a Chance | extra10 = Hart | writer10 = Davies and Hart | length10 = 4:24 | title11 = C'est What? | length11 = 8:17 | title12 = Where There's a Will | length12 = 5:36 | total_length = 70:03

"Give Me a Chance" was not included on all editions of the album.

Personnel

;Supertramp

• Rick Davies – keyboards, vocals
• Mark Hart – guitars, keyboards, vocals
• John Helliwell – saxophones, woodwinds
• Cliff Hugo – bass
• Bob Siebenberg – drums (except on "And The Light")
• Lee Thornburg – trombones, trumpets, background vocals
• Carl Verheyen – guitars
• Tom Walsh – percussion (all tracks); drums on "And The Light"

Additional personnel

• Bob Danziger – Kalimbas
• Karen Lawrence – background vocals
• Kim Nail – background vocals
• Fred Mandel – guitars on "And The Light" (uncredited as a musician on the cover)

Production

• Producers: Jack Douglas, Fred Mandel
• Executive producer: Rick Davies
• Engineers: Ian Gardiner, Jay Messina
• Assistant engineers: Ian Gardiner, Mike Scotella
• Mixing assistant: Roy Clark, Brian Hargrove
• Mastering: Bob Ludwig
• Creative director: Richard Frankel
• Cover art: Dimo Safari
• Portraits: Dennis Keeley

Charts

Weekly charts

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Chart (1997)	Position	Italian Albums (Musica e dischi)	Spanish Albums (AFYVE)
21
8
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Year-end charts

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Chart (1997)	Position	Belgian Albums Chart (Ultratop Wallonia)	French Albums (SNEP)	German Albums (GfK Entertainment Charts)	Swiss Albums (Schweizer Hitparade)
90
46
46
49
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Certifications and sales

References

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9. {{AllMusic
10. Larkin, Colin. (2006). "Encyclopedia of Popular Music". [[Oxford University Press]].
11. Sheffield, Rob. (2004). "The New Rolling Stone Album Guide". Simon & Schuster.
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